Favorite Memories and Trivia

[Donald Duck]

I think I'll begin this open discussion about FK memories and trivia with something very startling.

At one point, however briefly, Jay and Silent Bob were characters in Fantasmic Kingdom.

"Snooch to the nooch!"

Like I said in my resignation letter, there was an awkward period after the original FK was hacked and deleted. Several different forums bearing the FK name competed for dominance. Macabri ultimately won, but there was one forum Christina and I were in where the rules were given way more leeway than before. Not only were Disney characters allowed, but so were characters that appeared in Disney distributed works on ABC and other channels.

Christina and I, being the young and naughty kids we were, challenged the rule by creating Jay and Silent Bob, respectively, as they appeared in Clerks: The Animated Series. The very short-lived cartoon aired on ABC and was distributed by Buena Vista Television. There it is. That was the excuse. lol

Just like in the cartoon, Jay and Silent Bob were very toned down; they acted like "merry mischief makers," as Kevin Smith described it himself, rather than as profanity-laden (or in Bob's case, silent) drug dealers.

It's been so long that I only have one memory. I remember some Disney villain--maybe it was Hades or Maleficent, I forgot--was being all threatening, as Jay and Silent Bob just chilled out and ate muffins. Bob cartoonishly pointed to the villain behind Jay and Jay was like, "What is it, lunchbox?"

Holy crap, was I young and rebellious. lol

[Cold Shadow]

I recall you telling me about the Jay and Silent Bob situation. It's still surreal to think about, and even to this day the intrigue of it all hasn't worn off.

One of my favorite memories from FK is a situation Joe and I still call back to in jest to this day. There was a thread in which Ratigan (played by Joe) mousenapped Gadget (played by Christina, if I recall. Correct me if I'm mistaken, Joe). Gadget's role-player threw in the towel and retired, which meant that the thread was null and void.

At the time one of my accounts was the rat from Lady and the Tramp. To those who weren't around at the time, let me assure you that yes: I did, in fact, role-play as a generic, nameless, ordinary rat. Anyway, just for comedic value I had the rat abruptly burst into the thread, dash over to Gadget (whose RPer no longer existed, mind you), grab her in its mouth, then scamper out of the room. During the process it knocked over a plethora of items which were laid out upon the dining table, and generally created a chaotic mess in its wake. This post was, needless to say, a joke to lighten the mood, and not a genuine canon post.

Shortly after I made said post I received a PM from a former RPer, Moony, which proceeded to scold me and inform me that such power-play posts were not allowed. She had no idea at the time that the rat was me, and when I informed her of who I was she knew me well enough to realize my impish nature and habit of making joke posts, and that was that.

While the thread in question is archived, the joke post is long-since removed. So, there's a bit of obscure trivia, as those who didn't see it first-hand won't find it on record anymore.

As for my favorite thread on FK, that award goes to Duck Soup. I had a blast with that thread.

[Dreamchild]

Haha, the Rat was hilarious. I love your FK picks. Duck Soup was awesome, too!

Let's see, another favorite memory... Years back some people would deliberately piss off Donald just to get his reaction. lol Well, that's always been the case.

One time Christina had Mim begrudgingly side with the "goodies" just because it would help her own agenda, and to disguise herself she transformed into an obese and hideous parody of Tinker Bell, dress, bunned hair and all. lol

[Rose]

Sept 17, 2013 21:28:27 GMT -8 Dreamchild said:

One time Christina had Mim begrudgingly side with the "goodies" just because it would help her own agenda, and to disguise herself she transformed into an obese and hideous parody of Tinker Bell, dress, bunned hair and all. lol

Mmm, gimme some of that!

Ugh. Sounds hilarious yet terrifying, haha.

One of my favourite memories is the friendship between Rose and Alice. It was so unexpected, but I really loved it and I wish we'd gotten to finish more of it...especially it ended with Rose scaring Alice to death nearly. lol But it always makes me smile when I think of it.

Also the brief friendship between Donald and Cinderella/Briar Rose and Cinderella. Lovely.

[Dreamchild]

You were a lot of fun to play with. Rose and Alice made for a very interesting pair. I confess that I have never watched an episode of Jake Long (to this day, oopsie!), but all the same Rose was very welcome. It was fun to see an antiquated British girl interact with a more modern American, and their fallout is a favorite of mine, which led to yet another favorite of mine, "Rain." Which was between Heffy and me. I wish the two got a chance to reconcile, though; how their relationship ended permanently was a downer, lol.

Not gonna lie, Hannah. I really did consider you my strongest contender to play Alice if I ever had to pass the torch. You've impressed me.

[Frenchie and K. Sera]

Snooch to the Nooch!

I came in pretty late to Fantasmic, so I missed a lot of the awesome older threads you guys talk about and featured in the encyclopedia. Honestly, I have more memories of Dream League then of Fantasmic (I think that was partly because a lot of the Fant threads I was in fizzled out after a few posts).

Let's see... I loved the the Dreamchild/Delbert friendship, especially in the thread introducing the Boogie Man. I also enjoyed the thread where the Dreamers had to venture into the Haunted Mansion (I'm so sorry, my memory is so terrible that I can't recall what we were calling the place in canon), and the thread where they found out they had an anime based on them.

[Dreamchild]

Oh, yeah. I definitely loved those threads while they lasted. Because Dreamchild defended Doppler as a "friend" very quickly, depending on where the thread would have gone I'd have her realize this and be embarrassed yet polite. "It was the heat of the moment, but... we have the potential to be real friends, don't we?" Yeah. Man, am I an unashamed junkie for what I call "friendship porn."

The Phantom Manor thread, man, I miss the thrill of that. One thing about the Dream League I always loved is that the heroes often just... chat whenever there's no immediate danger. For example, they're in a scary house, which is immediately compared to the house from Psycho, which somehow leads to the topic of Harrison Ford, with pretty much all of them going, "Harrison Ford is badass." "Yeah, I like him." "Indiana Jones is awesome." Like that. It made for really amusing yet personable moments.

And, boy, did that choking ghost Heffy introduce surprise the hell out of us. Just to make it clear, he never told me about that. It happened with intentional surprise, and it certainly shocked me. lol I can understand why he didn't tell anyone; he wanted the heroes to be caught off guard, and what better way to do that than to catch us--the players--off guard? And because Dreamchild didn't die I didn't mind it. From what he did tell me behind the scenes, Phantom Manor was a labor of love for him, and it's a real shame it never got finished.

[Frenchie and K. Sera]

Oct 22, 2013 2:10:33 GMT -8 Dreamchild said:

Oh, yeah. I definitely loved those threads while they lasted. Because Dreamchild defended Doppler as a "friend" very quickly, depending on where the thread would have gone I'd have her realize this and be embarrassed yet polite. "It was the heat of the moment, but... we have the potential to be real friends, don't we?" Yeah. Man, am I an unashamed junkie for what I call "friendship porn."

LOL, that's a colorful way of putting it, but I am the same way. XD Honestly, I wish more of the recent RPG forums I've been part of had had more in the way of friendship and adventure for the characters rather then 90% shipping. I don't mind romance, but it tends to just take over everything, y'know? This is one of the two sites that didn't go that route.

Aww. Doppler pre-film isn't much for kids, but Alice is the sort that he wouldn't mind one bit and be pleased to call a friend.

I agree that the fact the ghost was a surprise made its entrance even more effective.

So many great threads here that I wish were finished, like the "To Catch A Predator" parody. Every time I go in that thread and see Chris Hansen's super-serious expression and the caption under his avatar I just laugh.

l also really like the San and Aurora friendship, both in DL and in FK. They had an interesting dynamic, and it was touching seeing how devoted they were to each other.

[Chris Hansen]

That's terribly sexy.

[Briar Rose]

So many great threads here that I wish were finished, like the "To Catch A Predator" parody. Every time I go in that thread and see Chris Hansen's super-serious expression and the caption under his avatar I just laugh.

I seriously regret not continuing "To Catch a Predator." Guess my role-playing muse death was starting to show even then. Heffy and I initially agreed to one joke in role-play. At some point Bongo would enter, and Chris Hansen would ask him, "Is it true you sleep with Dreamchild?" He'd nod innocently yet happily. Chris would press further, "Did you like those moments?" Again, Bongo would nod ecstatically. Yeah. Not too subtle joke. lol I don't remember exactly what ending I had in mind, but I knew it would've been extremely bizarre and surreal. For example, after the thread's peak Chris probably would have unzipped himself to reveal Danny DeVito or something. And then Dreamchild would enter and, being the cause of all of it, would unzip herself to reveal a flamingo with buck teeth, a a beard, and human hands with faint blood circling the wrists. Then the two would've started dancing, aaaaaaand anything after that would've been left up to the players. Hey! I said it would've been nonsensical, didn't I?

l also really like the San and Aurora friendship, both in DL and in FK. They had an interesting dynamic, and it was touching seeing how devoted they were to each other.

*Sigh* Some of my favorite threads. Thank you, Nicole. I'm flattered you liked those threads.

Well, Aurora and San is probably the most unexpected crack friendship ever I ever happened upon, but it actually paid off very hugely, in my opinion. When Heffy first created San, I immediately thought up the absolute strangest way to greet her. So I sent out Tony and Joe from Lady and the Tramp. That thread is hilariously weird to ready, even to this day. lol But then I thought, "What if a more serious character met San? A girl who lives in the forest? A girl who probably could earn San's trust?" That's when I thought: Briar Rose.

The rest is pretty much history. Aurora and San's friendship blossomed. There were a lot of other ideas I had for Aurora, some premature, others more ready to go. So here are some.

Most of Sleeping Beauty was planned to be retold in Fantasmic Kingdom, but with some serious twists. Briar Rose would've befriended more than just one friend (Phillip). San was another, Simba would've been another. Zummi could've been another, I think I remember very brief suggestions about him. I would've thrown in Donald, too; he was planned to be in this long gestating idea (since 2008) Well, those new friends could've been present when Briar Rose was revealed to be a princess.

Actually, Moony played Simba first, then Heffy took over. I forgot who it was, but they suggested Simba probably would've suggested Briar Rose to not return to her kingdom, and instead live "hakuna matata." Aurora, though heartbroken and depressed, declines the offer because, despite all the pain, she has to do what's best for her kingdom. As much as she wants her true love, she can't run away from her role. (Though she is by no means thrilled by it.) I imagine this might've either helped Simba realize his own strayed path or guilt tripped him like crazy, but hey. lol

They all could've followed her and the fairies to the castle, and be there to chase the hypnotized Aurora, but, like in the film, they would've been blocked by Maleficent.

Here's a serious difference from the movie. Aurora's hypnotism would've been broken just to Maleficent could taunt her.

Aurora: "What...?! What happened? Where am I?!" *she hears the muffled voices of her friends* "I'M IN HERE!!"

Maleficent: "It's hopeless, Princess."

Aurora, gasping and pivoting to find two yellow eyes staring at her: "Who are you?!"

Maleficent, stepping from the shadows to reveal herself: "You foolish, infantile girl. You are nary worth the anguish you've put me through."

Aurora: "... Y-you're Maleficent."

Maleficent: "For sixteen long years you've agonized me. For sixteen years I've searched for you. I compliment those deplorable 'aunts' of yours for being somewhat competent this whole time. Fortunately, I've caught you before dusk's end."

Aurora: "Why? Why did you do this to my kingdom? My parents... everyone. They've all suffered."

Maleficent, approaching her: "Your complaints are unjustified compared to my frustration!"

Aurora: "You forced two people to--t-to give up their baby. How could you..." *despite being terrified out of her mind, she nonetheless continues speaking, even when Maleficent stands near eye to eye.* "How can you live with yourself? How can you sleep at night?"

Maleficent: "You are correct, Your Highness. I've slept terribly the past sixteen years. But after tonight, I believe I shall sleep well. Hm, hm, hm."

Aurora: "You're a demon."

Maleficent: "Enough banter." *spinningwheel forms* "No matter what transpires, you will be cursed. Touch the spindle."

Aurora, tears streaming down her cheeks and staring at her tangible demise: "..."

Maleficent: "Touch. The. Spindle."

Aurora: "I-I will... but you have to promise me you'll not harm my friends."

Maleficent: "YOU dare bargain with me?!"

Aurora: "PROMISE ME! I'LL ONLY TOUCH IT NOW IF YOU DO!!"

Maleficent: "..." *sneer*

Man, I've had this rough draft for such a confrontation in mind since 2008ish. Woooow. It feels good to finally share it somehow! No, the could'a/should'a scene wouldn't have been that word for word, but it would've been very similar. It's really hard to quickly type up Maleficent-y dialog on the fly. lol Anyway, after THAT the pathway would've been unblocked and the friends could rush in for the scene I'm sure everyone involved would have been most excited to see: "Well, here's your precious princess!"

Donald: "I'M GONNA BREAK YOUR FACE!!" *charges after Maleficent but gets thrown against the wall* "Wak!"

Yep. The reactions I would have loved to see! I forgot who suggested, Moony or Heffy, but upon hearing this idea they suggested Simba nudging the lifeless Aurora, trying to get her to move. Feels, man...

I didn't know if I would've had the three good fairies be cursed to stone at that point or not. Because I wanted the friends to be the heroes. Yes. The rest would've been total improv without any guidance from me, save for obvious plot points (they needed to get to and free Prince Phillip). The rest of the thread would've resembled more or the movie, except near the end.

Maleficent actually survived long enough to stagger into the reunion ceremony. With black, oozy blood trickling from her stab wound and mouth, she would've gargled some final words, which basically were, "You haven't seen the last of me... I will have my revenge... Princess Aurora will DIE! BARG IM DED" and then disintegrate into black blood goop. Subtly, the knob of her scepter would flicker green but then... stop and become seemingly powerless.

After that, I had very vague ideas for possibilities. I had thoughts about Princess Aurora later visiting Simba when he reclaimed his throne. There was a tiny idea of Shere Khan passing by and being all, "Simba, you're friends with a HUMAN? I'll kill her!"

And Aurora, suddenly with Mr. T's voice, would retort, "Shut up, foo'! This isn't your jurisdiction!"

And Shere Kahn would be like, "Oh, yeah. Well, skin me alive and call me luggage!"

Yeah, that idea never really went anywhere. lol

Heffy and I did discuss some future things with San, following that big adventure. For example, in 2010 it hit me to suggest that at one point San probably could question her friendship with Aurora. He and I talked, and the basis went something like this.

[night time]

Aurora: "Good evening, San! How are you?"

San: "... Fine."

Aurora: "I... don't really have a reason to see you, but... well... do friends really need reasons to see each other?"

San: "... Rose, I've been thinking..."

Aurora: "Yes?" *happy smile*

San: "... We should probably stop seeing each other."

Aurora: "What?"

San: "..."

Aurora: "That's... a cruel joke, but--"

San: "You're a human."

Aurora: "... I am."

San: "I'm a wolf. And... I shouldn't--"

Aurora: "San... why...?"

San: "..."

Aurora: "It's true I'm a human... but so are you."

San: "No, I'm not."

Aurora: "You're human, San. You look like me--"

San: "I'm NOT a human!"

Aurora: "Then look at the stream! Look at your reflection. Why do you look more like me than a wolf?"

San: *looks at stream then angrily splashes it* "Just go away."

Aurora, trying to hug her: "San, stop it! Please--"

San, lightly HITTING her, once: "GO AWAY!!"

Aurora: "... San. Please..."

San: "I SAID GO AWAY!!"

Aurora, trying to touch her one last time: "Don't do this, please--"

San, again hitting her: "I HATE YOU!! I HATE ALL HUMANS!!"

Aurora, panting and starting to cry: "... San. I know you're lying, because if you hated me you wouldn't have joined our other friends and rescued me. I've met you so many times and you're wonderful, despite your distrust of humankind. If... if you really want me to leave you, I will. But, San... I'll always look at you as a friend."

San: "..." *cries and runs off into the night*

Wait, those feels weren't enough for you? Have some more! Heffy and I had one idea after that where San redeems herself by saving Aurora from a boar god-turned-demon. But somehow this led to San being possessed by Maleficent's dormant spirit. The possession wouldn't have taken full effect into some other thread, where Aurora and San were alone. San would've revealed herself by grinning "the way Maleficent did" and saying dead-giveaways.

Long story short... in the end, Aurora would've been stabbed and left for dead. San would've come to her senses just in time for her to realize her knife in Aurora's abdomen.

San: "No... God, why?"

Aurora: "It's... all right, San. It wasn't your fault... Maleficent--"

San: "Don't die! DON'T DIE!!"

Aurora: "San... do you remember the bird? [throwback to an older thread]"

San: "... Yes."

That's right, ladies and gents! After ALL THAT WORK with the Sleeping Beauty FK Style! plot, Aurora would've eventually died! Haha!

Maleficent: "Well! This turned out better than I ever imagined."

San: "DAMN YOU!!!" *tries to kill*

Maleficent: "This was delightful, but I'll spare your life."

San: "Why?!"

Maleficent: "Because I want you to live a long... LONG life with the guilt, knowing that YOU KILLED YOUR ONLY TRUE FRIEND! HAHAHAHAHA!!!" *vanishes*

WHEW. Hefferson and I had a LOT of ideas. lol I guess these less RPy, more prosey ideas were a sign that I would eventually fall into RP hiatus. Yeah...

Oh, and I never thought up an idea to resurrect Aurora. Haha. I guess she would've stayed dead. ._.

Yeah. Call her bland. Call her "pretentious." Call her "dumb." Call her "ditzy." Call her "flat." Call her "the worst princess ever." Be the Nostalgia Critic and chastise her to hell and back. The plain and simple truth is that I love(d) playing as her.

[Cinderella]

I didn't mention, another of my most cherished threads is between The Great Prince and Cinderella. <3 Wish I hadn't been so useless in my replying so we could've finished it - they would've made great friends eventually. Thanks, Nicole.

[Dreamchild]

I loved whenever any of us made a prank before editing the post to get back on course. For example, I remember one time I had Alice (Dream League canon) suddenly turn to San and say grumpily, "I still remember Pearl Harbor, you know."

[Two-Tone]

Wow, a lot of memories to be had here. I can remember the old days of fantasmic (back when Lori an ex-rper here still Rped as Lucky) when I made my debut here as Two-Tone. Had a lot of fun with Two-Tone here along with many of the other characters I Rped here. Especially that one thread in the House of Mouse where Jafar (Rped by me) assisted Maleficent in escaping with Mushu by generating a cage around Aladdin before he could get to Maleficent while she escaped. Wish we could have done more.

Also loved the Narnia plot we had going, very unique to have the whole site iced over while Jadis was about.